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Re: HD Backup



This UDF cross platform file system for removeable hardrives has me curious. 
How would one go about formating a drive with it. I'm a Linux "noob" and am 
unable to share with my other PC's formatted with NTFS. I'm running Kubuntu 
5.10 AMD64 "Breezy Badger" by the way. @:D>


On Monday 02 January 2006 01:02, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 01:31 -0500, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> > And what is journaling?
> > Do you even know what journaling does?
> > Journaling allows increased recovery time, but it does _not_ necessarily
> > guarantee better consistency.
>
> Actually, you should research on how journaling works for NTFS.
>
> Furthermore, you should also research how registry inconsistencies can
> break NTFS, because it is dependent on the SAM of the registry (in the
> case of non-domain SAM).
>
> That's why transactional registry and NTFS were planned for NT 4.0
> "Cario," now the infamous "CarioFS."  It has been reborn into new
> vaporware for NT 6.0 "Longhorn" as "WinFS."
>
> I have been following this for over 10 years now, and I'm sure many
> people at Microsoft hate me for it.  ;->
>
> With all that said, at what point does Linux handle NTFS journaling?
> With _any_ 3rd party add-on for that matter?
>
> You can't completely trust writing to a NTFS filesystem with even
> another NT installation (not even the exact same version) that didn't
> create it and isn't privy to its same registry-SAM.  Although some of
> the newer, (and rather _slow_ ;-) user-space Linux utilities can read
> the registry-SAM and preserve some SID/meta-data, I still don't trust
> them.
>
> But then again, I've never trusted NTFS much -- and try to limit it's
> use to local, fixed disks that never leave a system, and that system is
> part of a domain (with a network-wide SAM).
>
> > For a fixed NT disk, sure.
> > But for backing up a Linux system, Ext2/3 or UDF.
>
> Again, I want to stress the fact this user was asking about backing up
> Linux to a removable disk, but he wanted it readable (possibly writable)
> in Windows.  UDF accomplishes this.
>
> Microsoft's documentation is incomplete on its UDF support -- there _is_
> write UDF support (just no format utility).  But 99.9% of the
> documentation assumes you are talking about DVD-RAM, -RW or +RW drives,
> where drive command sets can get drive specific.  For generic fixed
> disks (which external drives appear as), UDF rewrite is there.

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